ok here are some FAQs
> will you block more domains? - The size of gab is pretty unique and I have no time to research smaller instances, so most likely no
> Is this censorship/against free speech etc? - No because A. hate against marginalised groups is no opinion B. gab can still be accessed by other means and Tusky can be forked and C. Tusky is no government, so it cannot take away your basic rights
@ConnyDuck rack em! keep it up. your app is great.
@ConnyDuck we could show a toast with explanation while opening the video... but anything would be good really
@ConnyDuck don't waste your time on reading gh obviously
@ConnyDuck how about zip bombing their phones? 😅😅
@ConnyDuck I do understand the sentiment, but I must reiterate my concerns about this making you responsible for content accessed through Tusky. I believe it's necessary for Tusky to just dumbly implement Mastodon APIs, without any consideration of which instance or what content, in order for you to not be legally responsible for what is accessed (like a web browser can't be sued for kiddie porn accessed through it).
re: Tusky, Gab
@Matter FYI that notion is legally called "carrier protection" and it largely got thrown out the window with SESTA/FOSTA, though the cases about that haven't made much headway yet.
Ignoring that, those browsers can be removed from private app stores for not taking adequate steps against disallowing illegal behavior, even if a civil or legal suit wouldn't hold water, and I believe that's the main motivation I've seen from app developers who are considering or have blocked gab?
re: Tusky, Gab
@emsenn @Matter My main motivator is that I hate the far right, white supremacy, and all it stands for, and I will do my utmost to make sure any work I do will not be used by them to further their goals.
Possible app store problems makes it more urgent, but I would do it even if app stores were perfectly fine with it.
But if they were, I might not want to be on those platforms in the first place.
re: Tusky, Gab
re: Tusky, Gab
@bix if any filtering is applied,I can see Google come knocking and ask for Tusky (or others) to apply further blocking of other sites(maybe an anarchist or antifa instance, who knows?).If no filtering at all is applied,we could just say that the app is not concerned with such things and is just a dumb pipe, but that doesn't work if even one instance gets blocked.Not talking about a legal aspect,just concerning gplay etc.And I think gab should be blocked at instance level,not apps.
The US law CDA Section 230 protects intermediaries even if they take moderation action, as long as they have not actively encouraged illegal conduct. I see no reason this isn't the same situation. If the app developer is aware of particular illegal conduct (and some hate speech is illegal) and filters it out, they cannot be held liable for use of the app to access other illegal content they were not aware of.
@ConnyDuck isn't doing this for app store reasons. He is doing it for political reasons. Sure, he claims it's for the former, but deep down he just wants control against his enemies.
To be fair, that is his right, but i won't be using tusky or Fedilab now. I don't even like the gab crazies, but what these two have done is just pitiful.
@poetgrant is fedilab doing it too?
@Hawk1291 Yep... not AndStatus though
@poetgrant blahh... thanks for the info!
@poetgrant @ConnyDuck I know, I just wanted to try and reason with him, because I think it's an aspect he might not have thought about as much.
There's a place to get rid of gab: and it's on an instance level by muting them (not blocking). Doing these kinds of tricks on the app level will only alienate those people further and hinder fediverse adoption.
@ConnyDuck I updated our FAQ with this very relevant information.
@ConnyDuck Wait, Tuskey has done this too? Great, another client I gotta uninstall. I'm no fan of Gab/Voat, but blocking individual players in the Fediverse plays into a bigger bullshit narrative. It actually gives them credibility (e.g. look at people who are oppressing us).
Open source does often means you can't really dictate terms. JSMin fell into this with it's 'don't be evil' license. Should people ban Amazon or Wal-Mart from using their FOSS tools? It's goes down a dark path.
@ConnyDuck This is an antifeature. It's intentionally crippling software. I don't like that.
well summed up 🤟
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