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COVID-19 tracing app, Germany 

So. I installed this app. It looks much more polished than I expected.

(No, I am not so paranoid and hybrid that I think I must or even can control what code runs on my smartphone. I consider data on electronic devices compromised by default. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯)

COVID-19 tracing app, Germany 

@Xjs I'm really on the fence about this. Have you seen any security or data traffic analysis for it yet? It looks like I will have to resume physical meetings due to working styles, so not having a trace app makes me uncomfortable; but so do trace apps.

COVID-19 tracing app, Germany 

@feonixrift I haven't. But I have WhatsApp installed on this phone as well, so there's that. If anything, I trust my phone vendor to be careful with my data a lot more than the big software company that makes the other operating system. (Plus, it's not like I'm going anywhere except my home and the nearby store…)

COVID-19 tracing app, Germany 

@Xjs Yeah I might put it on the 'awful software' phone. That'd work.

COVID-19 tracing app, Germany 

@feonixrift Isn't all software awful, in a way?

(Seriously though: I suppose in your position that's a good decision.)

COVID-19 tracing app, Germany 

@feonixrift (I would probably maintain several phones, too, weren't my physical manifestation super privileged and exemplary anyway, or would my phone's physical location in fact contain sensitive information that could lead to harm. I guess the only dark secret that could ever get out right now is that I really care about humanity and wish to do good…)

COVID-19 tracing app, Germany 

@Xjs I possess only the illusion of dark secrets; my reality is a mild mannered mathematician pursuing useless numbers in needless detail.

COVID-19 tracing app, Germany 

@feonixrift I mean, if I were a murderous psychopath with meticulous attention to obscuring any hints to this tendency or something, all observables about me would probably read exactly the same as they do now. Including this toot. So – why wouldn't I install the Corona-Warn-App. 🙃

COVID-19 tracing app, Germany 

@Xjs >.< exactly

COVID-19 tracing app, Germany 

@Xjs About 90% of my information security and privacy is either performative and useless cultural signalling, or completely accidental yet somehow convenient.

COVID-19 tracing app, Germany 

@Xjs @feonixrift the fun part about information getting out is that you don't need to have a dark secret, someone just needs to interpret the data they collect about you as a dark secret.

COVID-19 tracing app, Germany 

@Xjs I made it by accident .. got a coincidentally google-free phone and never quite finished moving over to it. Now only ugly, proprietary stuff lives on the old one.

COVID-19 tracing app, Germany 

@Xjs But to be fair you can just compile it yourself and install it on your phone, then you do know what is running there.

COVID-19 tracing app, Germany 

@jeena Sure. I could. But there's a lot of code on my phone that I can't compile myself, and have to trust. And even if I could all the billions of lines that are probably running there, someone smarter than me could have put something bad in without me noticing. It's an endless rabbit hole and I'd rather use my time for something worth while :)

COVID-19 tracing app, Germany 

@Xjs but it doesn't work quite like that, at least if you use only free software then you can outsource most of the digging into the billions of lines of code to the community which is much more trustworthy than a single company.

COVID-19 tracing app, Germany 

@Xjs but yeah if you've installed WhatsApp then all hope is lost anyway :D

COVID-19 tracing app, Germany 

@jeena yeah, this is about practicability, not about idealism.

COVID-19 tracing app, Germany 

@jeena Even if that were unconditionally true, which I believe it isn't, I still can't trust the hardware. What if there's a malicious chip inside my CPU?

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