@aaron I don't think it's convenient to move to a closed source plattform that provides no value over mattermost or matrix.
@jrt from the perspective of convenience there is at least one advantage over matrix and mattermost: you don't have to do all the sysadmin stuff you'd otherwise have to do to achieve a stable and usable platform. Discord provides a platform that just works™ — mattermost and matrix don't.
@aaron I didn't thought that you're in favor of that. I just want to understand why people's at foss project's think it's a good idea.
SaaS: in a lot of cases it's still your instance. The provider is just a hoster and updates your instance for you. There are a lot of these hosters that do not collect data, as it's not part of their business model.
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