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lgbtqi+ term confusion 

It seems I'm not the only one who is confused about the term bisexual. In my head bi means "two" and I am not able to explain the redefinition towards "two or more". Where is the "or more" in bi? Do I miss something?

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lgbtqi+ term confusion 

@bandie idk bi/pan, some folks prefer one term over another for themselves. I don't consider bisexual to be trans and non binary exclusionary. Identity is identity, and it's what you're comfortable with that matters :blobcatblep:

lgbtqi+ term confusion 

@bandie there doesn't need to be logical reasoning behind it. It feels nice to fit things into boxes, but some boxes have 4th dimensions :P

lgbtqi+ term confusion 

@bandie It's like two cases of a mathematical definition. True for the same and true for not the same gender.

lgbtqi+ term confusion 

@dadada This is a nice hint which can help to make it understandable.

lgbtqi+ term confusion 

@bandie it's just always meant that. in the same way being bilingual means speaking two or more languages. i can't find the literature about it though.

lgbtqi+ term confusion 

@PsyChuan @bandie that is a really clear explanation for me. Ty o.o

lgbtqi+ term confusion 

@ella @bandie i remember reading something from like the seventies or eighties where the definition was i guessed codified and was written as love of "more than one gender or sex." this website has a good definition. bi.org/en/101/bisexuality

lgbtqi+ term confusion 

@bandie I think linking bi to the gender binary is something we are socialized to. For me the bi stands for "the same and another" not defining the later at all. So it's just an umbrella for many different manifestations.

lgbtqi+ term confusion 

@leah Others seem to have the same thought. This is easy to understand, and finally I do too. Thanks!

lgbtqi+ term confusion 

@leah @bandie the "same and other" definition has the problem that it excludes people who are into two or more genders, but none of them is their own. This also excludes genderless/agender bisexuals.

lgbtqi+ term confusion 

@enum @leah Couldn't "other" include {} and U?

lgbtqi+ term confusion 

@enum @bandie I don't think so. I do not see how it excludes anyone. As I said in another toot on the topic: labels are a way to make things more easy to describe, so it's their nature that they are ambiguous. I think we need to tolerate and except that :)

re: lgbtqi+ term confusion 

@bandie there's a couple of definitions, Shiri's "bi notes for bisexual revolution" mentions them early on
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