Imagine where CryptPad, NextCloud and other open source projects could be now, if the money your company spent for Microsoft 365 went into funding their development instead.

@fnord you mean 0 € for nextcloud and cryptpad instead of 0 € for Microsoft?

@txt_file I applaud you for not being the target audience of my toot. ;-)
Seriously though, it is embarassing to see how invested my employer is in this. While I'm happy to see WhatsApp banned for company use, it's just hilarious to cite privacy concerns when mandating the use of MS Teams instead. They even go out of their way to pretend it doesn't violate the GDPR.

@fnord maybe they wouldn't be as good as they are right now. Money lures often the wrong one and chase away the volunteers

@caliandroid You're making a good point - that is something to be aware of, but I think it can be avoided with careful planning. I think the approach CryptPad uses is not that bad - everything is open source, but they also offer a paid service that generates funding for development.

@caliandroid I am not a huge fan of the "free to play / pay to win" community vs. enterprise edition model that many other projects use, though, because that has a much higher risk of driving away the volunteers. (Think: "Pull Request denied because we already have that feature in the enterprise edition")

@fnord @caliandroid or if countries would just finance free software instead of buying licenses.

@cybercow @fnord I love the approach FOSS software without an enterprise edition with paid professional support and customization.

But in the end, any full time developer has to be make his living and has to get paid by donation or whatever

@fnord Perhaps they would then have established a proprietary distribution model with closed software. 🙈😉

I am OK with decisions companies make. The public sector / tax money should be spent for open source projects. This would be a game changer.

@7daq0 I agree that companies should be able use whatever they see fit (as long as it is legal, which is at least debatable with MS365, but not my point here).
I just think that funding FOSS would, in many cases, be the smarter decision. It seems that often there are only two options considered: Use open source or pay for commercial software. The third option - take the money that the commercial product would cost and use it to make the FOSS product better suit your needs is often overlooked.

Let me rethink. If employees have to use certain tools they are also forced to give personal information for free. I didn't consider that. It's like me saying ''well if a company has work that harm employees it is their business''. Not good.
I agree on the third option totally.


I agree but also think of Linux users, not just companies. How many actually donate to projects they use ?

@PublicNuisance I do, occasionally. But it's companies (and of course the public sector) that could make a huge difference.

@fnord well said! I'm baffled that many universities that would have the resources to run a Jitsi server, they instead opted to use Zoom or Webex for their lectures.
I have also had virtual classes through these proprietary platforms from government institutions.
Imagine if tax payer money was spent on #freesoftware ...


I have never used it but it seems like Microsoft 365 is a product that enhances office productivity in the way the MQ-1 Predator Drone is a product that enhances national security.

i.e. it doesn't at all, rather it catastrophically does the opposite so horribly and completely that an alarming increase of the problem is ensured for perpetuity; a fact that brings delight to those shredding stupifying amounts of money in the development of these products.

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