@allison @n0btc How the entire UI is inconsistent, how random crap can decide to drain my battery within 2h (hello, Google Maps that was running in the background albeit not being used), the lag in the UI, the inconsistent frame pacing in the UI, the way too broad permissions for apps (so many that cannot be disabled at all, others that are only a binary on or off), the fragmentation of the entire ecosystem, the lack of updates for more than 2 or 3 years even on Google phones, etc. I could go on
@allison @mewmew @n0btc Old iPhones still get updates and can be obtained for reasonable prices :). $150 will get you an iPhone 7 128 GB in almost mint condition, which is still plenty fast and has plenty of storage. But this is no longer arguing about OSes from a technical perspective. There’s Android phones that easily cost more than iPhones, too.
X200 is a nice notebook for Coreboot, though. I still have mine for exactly that reason.
@allison @mewmew @n0btc Battery can be changed (done that). Breaking them can easily be fixed yourself since cheap 3rd party replacement parts are easily available. Apps depends on what apps you need. Headphone jack: Starting iPhone 7 they come with an adapter cable, 6s still has a HPJ and is not much older. Most androids no longer have HPJ either.
Apart from my browser (to keep up with Google changing the web standards) and youtube-dl (to keep up with Google changing how YouTube works), none of my software ever needs another update. In fact, I don't notice when I've forgotten to install them for months.
You'd discard an entire piece of hardware just because updates have stopped‽
@brad @allison @mewmew @n0btc The community is able to provide newer userland on the same old kernel. Security bugs in drivers are still not fixed. So far, every iPhone got updates for so many years that it basically fell apart before it no longer got updates. An iPhone that gets updates for 7 years is nothing unusual.
Sadly theres stuff that needs updates other than the kernel
I've not heard of any community attempts to take on maintaining drivers for an android device (it would be a whole load of work)
Theres also the component (WiFi, display, Bluetooth etc. etc.) firmware updates which, for valid security reasons, have to be signed by the device vendor. Monthly security update bulletins provide an ever growing public list of vulnerabilities in these firmwares
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