As usual, @brainwane's writing on a complicated topic are clear, thoughtful, direct, and bring the receipts to the table: "Not The First Time We Tried (FSF, GNU, RMS, etc.)"

It's the thing that gets me with the support for RMS, You can point at this, and Bradley's and Matthew's posts and some folks will see it as a corporate conspiracy leading a mob. Rather than wonder if the environment drove people elsewhere. Nearly a week later and I'm still stunned at it happening and the way it was handled. If the FSF can't change then we need to move on.

@onepict @cwebber @brainwane The open letter made it a lot easier to defend Stallman. If it was about the issues mentioned in this blog post, there would be a lot less resistance. Instead, they accuse Stallman of having "shown himself to be misogynist, ableist, and transphobic, ...", and petition for his removal based on "his hurtful and dangerous ideology". But there's sparse public evidence for these accusations, and in at least one case, his supposed transphobia, there's ample evidence of the contrary. People will interpret these inaccuracies as character assassination and discredit any genuine issues with him based on these.

@acuteanniemay @onepict @brainwane Have you read this post?

It acknowledges there have been some mischaracterizations, analyzes them one by one, but still clearly identifies what *did* happen and comes to a conclusion about this decision to surprise-reappoint him and how it was clearly a bad idea.

@cwebber @acuteanniemay @onepict @brainwane

I think Stallman's behaviour can be characterized as misogyny, that's not excessive

When women publish reports about you, write on twitter they stayed away because of you, and you insist for 20 years, that means you don't give a damn what a category of people is saying

And that category of people is women

So no, sorry, social awkwardness doesn't cut it, here

there's not intent only. There are effects too

@cwebber @acuteanniemay @onepict @brainwane

I didn't read about ableism because I have enough of this

As for transphobia, sorry but that's not just a preference about linguistic issues

If you insist on a solution that no one else will adopt, when the rest of the world has settled on they/them, you are transphobic

Posting about trans right is free, especially for a person like him

Doing something is not free and he wasn't ready to do something

So, no, sorry. He was transphobic

@AbbieNormal @cwebber @onepict @brainwane I don't see how it would be transphobic to use other gender neutral pronouns. I understand that it is silly, but I don't see why would it be hateful towards trans persons. I'm not trans so could you please explain so I can understand?
@acuteanniemay @cwebber @brainwane @AbbieNormal @onepict The arrogant attitude "I solved your problem without consulting you, now accept my solution" by us computer people is exactly why we have bad IT systems and global ubiquitous services with bad social consequences.

There is an accepted solution, so it's even worse: Per/perse is the next-level-arrogant "I solved my problem with your solution without consulting you, now accept my solution".

He doesn't intend it as disrespectful, he just doesn't realize that it is. But in effect yes, it is transphobic even if he intends to and thinks he empathizes with trans people.

To me where the abuse comes in, is that he said to at least one individual that he would not respect their partners pronouns. Folk have been talking to RMS behind the scenes for years. He's unwilling to change because of that arrogance. It also sends a message that his opinion matters over everyone else's. FLOSS to me is about collaboration and that includes listening to others and respecting their opinions and identity. Leaders need to be able to do that.

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