@pinkprius the thought did cross my mind that I could drop out of school and take my professors out to lunch occasionally to pick their brains…

@kai @pinkprius HIGHLY recommended. I did this with an old colleague of Gödel and Einstein. I wanted to learn set theory; so he set me down and taught me the basics over weekly tutoring sessions at a library. Best dang math teacher I’ve ever had.

It makes me weep with regret: that he intuitively knew my learning style and taught to it with a sharp curve. But the canned, brute force curriculum in school wasted my time, making me loathe math for decades... 🙍🏽‍♀️

@pinkprius @KitRedgrave you know the institutions are fucked when *personally* employing knowledgeable people *exclusively* for your education is far more efficient than sharing them via the institution

@pinkprius @KitRedgrave gotta pay for those opulent new buildings somehow...

@ddipaola @pinkprius @KitRedgrave I'd hope that if you did this you'd want to pay them at least the living wage.

@wim_v12e of course. they wouldn't have to reserve all their working hours just for me. they could probably teach a couple of other people while still working humane hours. also, their hourly wage would probably be pretty good

@ddipaola But
if you'd wanted wider access, wouldn't you need a more scalable solution than private tuition?

@wim_v12e IMO, private tutelage is not actually what is needed. I'm just using that as an example of what teaching professionals could make if a reasonable percentage of undergrad tuition actually went to them.

most US schools are too opulent. they need to build fewer unnecessary buildings and spend more effort on teaching and research

@ddipaola It sounds nice anyway. I don't know about US universities, I'm in the UK. I agree in general of course: universities should focus on teaching and research, what else? Infrastructure should be there to support that.

@wim_v12e for instance, the teacher could record lectures (only having to do the work for those once-ish, automating >3/hr/wk/course) and spend the rest of their time as "office hours". let's say we cut the course cost by 50% (1.5kUSD/course): over a 15wk course, a teacher could make 100USD/wk doing maaaayybe 2hr/wk of (grading+office hours)/course/student (IMO, office hours tend to go mostly unused). that's almost 50USD/hr. there will be some overhead but that's good money

@ddipaola

People us the term 'inverted classroom' for the situation where course material is presented/read/watched outside of classroom time and -n-the-classroom time is used for Q&A, discussion, demonstrations, group exercises, etc.

@wim_v12e

@deejoe @wim_v12e that sounds better than the current model.

also, I can't count how many times I spaced out in a lecture and missed something important. having the ability to rewind or replay certain parts would have been amazing

@ddipaola

The established nature of the material for intro courses also means there tend to be textbooks.

So, we have already long-had an easily 'replayable' medium to complement in-person course activities.

@wim_v12e

@ddipaola

Video works better for some people than text, worse for others, and in general offers an added dimension of complementarity. It also adds lots of complexity, and hence cost. Just one big challenge here is that all video needs to be captioned.

Which takes us back to the top of the thread. Universities burn Increasing amounts of money on IT and increasing amounts dealing with complexities like this.

@wim_v12e

@ddipaola @wim_v12e

Be careful not to treat all lectures as easily-canned content presentation, though. They get closest to that of course in large introductory courses, where it's pretty well established what needs to be covered, how, at what pace. But even then a professor might modulate presentation, review, and evaluation based on how things are going.

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