Also we have to get rid of any messenger that requires your mobile phone number as your unique identifier, even much-lauded #Signal. It locks you inside the conventional, easy-to-track phone infrastructure. Try #Conversations instead, on a WiFi-only device. It uses the decentralized XMPP and works like a charm.
@ralph I totally agree with "we have to get rid of any messenger that requires your mobile phone number as your unique identifier." This has been annoying me for quite a while, now.
@kensanata @ralph @hinterwaeldler
It’s all about tradeoffs, right? Whether phone number leaking is a big deal largely depends on your threat model. Some people need to keep that number private. Others assume the attacker knows it already.
Network effects matter too. Many are already using Signal. More have heard of it.
“Is Signal ideal?” isn’t the question but rather “Is Signal better for my situation than what I use today?”
@mkb @hinterwaeldler @ralph @kensanata #CopperheadOS has a good list in the usage guide: https://copperhead.co/android/docs/usage_guide#messaging
#Conversations is at the top of the list most recommended, then #Signal, then #WhatsApp and others.
@uranther @kensanata @hinterwaeldler @mkb What's a recommended xmpp server for conversations?
@ralph @uranther @kensanata @hinterwaeldler @mkb I recommend dismail.de. Conversations with OMEMO on LineageOS or Replicant and dismail.de are the perfect combination. But the good thing is, you can choose for yourself. Check the feature compliance on https://conversations.im/compliance/ and the availability on https://status.conversations.im/historical/ and make your own choice, that's what's so great about it :)
@resist_berlin @uranther @kensanata @hinterwaeldler @mkb Yeah, about that. It would be much more helpful with a list of xmpp servers that does support those extensions. Instead of everyone having to do that research. But someone will probably write that list soon :)
@ralph @uranther @kensanata @hinterwaeldler @mkb I guess that's the price of federation... Users will have to make *some* choices on their own again. Having *the one* go-to service would ruin the entire idea. But I understand the problem, I will probably make a list of 5-10 recommended services in the future and explicitly say that they're equally good. It's like buying things in real like, not one choice will be ideal but several will be reasonably good. People need to get used to that.
