All source code of abandoned software should be open sourced. Manufacturers should be forced to do so on the end of service date.
@sophie most "contributions" of this nature are instant abandonware, given that software isn't really the bits. software is people. but it does give software freedom a boost to have the example, and librarians and historians an original source. another problem is that copyright is transferable, and someone ends up with the IP when assets are liquidated, even for pennies, but if you replace the word "forced" with "incentivized" I think you've got something.
@0 § 29 Abs. 1 UrhG. But I think here it was more hinted at Nutzungs- und Verwertungsrechten which are also part of copyright.
Exactly. Entirely different kind of animal. I also agree that the subject of that discussion is not authorship but usage rights (i.e. intellectual property rights), but people seem to think that what may (or may not, I have no idea) be applicable in the #US legal systems automatically extrapolates to our own systems. This is all but guaranteed not to be the case.
@sophie All code […] should be open sourced. Manufacturers should be forced to do so […].
@cadence @sophie may i add to this that if you're buying something that requires you to use a particular service to access it (games on Steam, books on audible, etc), if your account is closed or terminated for any reason (bans, service closure, etc), they should be required to send you a storage device containing DRM free versions of the items you bought
i can see why they'd like you to believe the former while it actually is the latter, because then you'd maybe put a different value on it and only be willing to pay less.
depending on which it is, you either should or shouldn't have the right to a DRM-free copy.
@irl get that boot out of your mouth and then get the fuck out of here.
@sophie Amen 🙏
@sophie makes you think about how copyright can be dodgy, doesn't it?
If some abandonware was a book, a song, etc, it would eventually *have* to become public (even if it took some 70 years) due to the nature of copyright law. But legislators don't understand that programs come in source and object form, and whereas that would make it possible to share the binaries freely, nobody's talking about the paramount importance of the source code here.
@sophie There's an "Orphan Works" law in Canada that might cover this, but I don't think it's been seriously tested.
@sophie And DRM signing keys, too!
@sophie addendum: software more than say ~25 years old should be public domain
@sophie Quite a lot of software developed within the companies never sees the light of day. Not because it is too crappy (it's sometimes even crappier code which still goes into production), but simply because somebody higher up changed their mind.
Also, besides abandoned software there is discontinued hardware, with all it's designs and (internal) documentation. Buried under the piles of bureaucratic procedures.
Bitte nie wieder Sozialismus. @sophie
@sophie I disagree. I would however encourage software companies to release old (and new!) source code wherever practical.
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