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For anyone who fancied the Five but are fed up with the developers politics, or found the price to be way too high, here is something that might be interesting for you: liliputing.com/2019/06/pinepho

@uint8_t I got a refund on my Librem 5 pre-order because I don't want Purism anywhere near me or my money anywhere near them. The PinePhone is gonna be my next phone now =D

@Shrigglepuss @uint8_t I've been out of the loop, apparently. Why are we shunning Purism now?

@seylerius @Shrigglepuss is free speech absolutist nazi apologists, providing no moderation, and if you wonder what that will turn into, look up voat...

todon.nl/@alice/10206128600493

Other than that, they are shipping their hardware with proprietary BIOS reddit.com/r/linux/comments/3a so even less reason to support them

@paulfree14 that sounds like just capitalists trying to earn money, and I don't think that's comparably harmful to what purism is doing with their free speech absolutism.

@paulfree14 A more important concern would be the working conditions at their assembly line, for example. I have no information about that.

@uint8_t
oportunism may lead to decisions that are defined by the circumstances indipendent form its moral.
meh, not so happy with this frame, but I guess you understand what I try to say.

@paulfree14 @uint8_t I'll be keeping a closer eye, that was unfortunate wording but I'm not going to write them off just yet... It's a weak response but they are a business and I appreciate they need to be cautious. I'd personally prefer a harder more clear stance but this isn't exactly hate apologism ~yet~.
As a competitor to Purism I really don't think a stronger political opposition could hurt at all. Would be great PR for them and promote more discussion about Purism's motives too right?

@Shrigglepuss @uint8_t
yeah, for them that would be actually a great PR possibility.
hope they choose so.

@uint8_t oml, $150?! I would just buy it to play with it xP

@uint8_t hey that glacier ux mentioned? I did most of the prototyping for that :-D :-D

@uint8_t How the hell have I missed reading about this until now?? Thank you for the link!

@uint8_t Zoe, thanks for this information. Are You going to get one and using it as our daily phone or just as an experimental platform? e.g. I recently got the idea to have a linux based pocket computer ... like a smartphone with linux 🙂

@DH0PE I'm not planning to replace my phone until it falls completely apart. But when I need a new one, a PinePhone has a good chance.

@uint8_t this is great, I really hope they keep some in stock because my phone isn't quite done yet, but I'd love a cheap linux phone. I just wish it was something smaller for my pockets

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