holy shit, firefox market share is below 5%!?!
the web is not okay

among search engines google got 90+% since a decade

that company is a monopoly, how it is not split up yet

how long are we going to pretend the web is Neuland, so antitrust law and regulations does not apply

I thought tech is cool because I can make interesting things with it, can automate boring things away, etc, but the larger picture is that capitalists fucked everything up real bad, and most of the tech exists only to exploit people and sell more tech

I'm turning into Micah minus the making art and being cool part

@uint8_t Part of the problem is that computers are a technological good. They require a certain living to afford. We are not born with a terminal and a Web connection (yet). The kinds of societies that give rise to computer programmers are the kinds that also give rise to corporations and CEOs. We need an equitable distribution of computers to solve this problem.

DuckDuckGo seemed fine as a search engine but it feels like it got drastically worse a few months ago

@tsia I use ecosia (= bing) since a while, and it does the job 90% of the time. when I'm not satisfied with the first 2 pages, just throw a hashtag g behind the search term and it redirects me to google.

@tsia @uint8_t it definitely did. The times I had to use the !g shortcut in its search box increased dramatically

@uint8_t has user count decreased though? Or has chrome just grown quicker? No question that this is abysmal but they’ve dropped like one percentile over five years.

@uint8_t I still remember the days when IE monoculture is thought of as a bad thing and there was huge advocacy for alternative browsers, yet it seems that nowadays people actually *celebrate* Chromium monoculture

@koakuma chrome is not as bad as IE6 was back then, it is mostly bad because of the enormous power google holds.

@uint8_t @koakuma just goes to show that the outrage was more over the tech than the politics, I guess. As long as you write shiny clean code and release a CV library with a funny name now and then you can get away with worse than MS ever did.

@uint8_t what extra sucks is that some webdevs are designing just for chrome and shrug off support for any other browser, leading to a feedback loop favoring only chrome

@uint8_t Much of this may be because Android hasn't had its own built-in browser that wasn't Chrome in a few major versions now. Android Browser is relegated to old phones and maybe cheaper prepaid phones still on the market.

Since Chrome is pre-installed on every Android phone in the past several years, and the Android line isn't rising, I would say this is conveniently combining the numbers of what's actually two markets with one name.

@uint8_t Firefox did go through a period where its performance did seem to lagg behind that of chrome (in my humble opinion ) I liked firefox though...

@uint8_t that is good to hear... I hope firefox makes a comeback ... it is not good to have a browser monoculture

@uint8_t Mobile is half the market, desktop 46%, so Firefox's 5% is better than 10% of desktop. Still a slide but not quite so much.

85% of mobile is Android -> Chrome. Safari's 15% is pretty much straight match with iOS and MacOS marketshare (each 15%).

Otherwise, Chrome owns Android and most of desktop.

@uint8_t ...and I remember a day when half of everyone's go-to browser was :firefox:

@uint8_t I wonder if this reflects actual usage or just installations... I mean every fucking single android device comes with chrome pre-installed, no matter if used or not...

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