no but seriously the danger of the continued 9€-Ticket is that it is a slippery slope:
- people would buy less cars
- if we can make it 9€, we could also make it free, getting rid of the ticketing infrastructure and ticket inspection, which would save cost
- if it turns out that can provide public transportation for free, people might think what else could be done that benefits everyone and financed by everyone
- next up people will want a UBI??
- people will be harder to exploit
- less profit
It is free in some countries 🙂
@uint8_t I love that the association of public transport in Germany is against continuing the 9€-ticket, because the additional load on the staff is too great. Because, obviously, that's the biggest problem, which is also impossible to solve!
@uint8_t It would be interesting to find out just how much ticketing actually costs for major networks. All those fare machines, the card processing fees, the comms required, the fare barriers and their card readers, maintenance for it all, plus any inspectors if used..
Cost and flexibility is one of the reasons why Switzerland switched to a purely electronic system almost a decade ago. More or less the only people who still use the ticket machines are the tourists.
Funnily though, the on-train ticket checks actually save money, by discouraging vandalism (yes, Switzerland learned that the hard way).
@uint8_t I don’t think making the trains free would get us rid of the ticketing infrastructure: you’d still need a way to book a place and make sure a train won’t be overbooked. But yeah, you’re right about the ticket inspection. And all the rest. Let’s wish some politicians see the light…
…at the end of the tunnel? 😂
Reserved seats are, at least in Europe, mostly a German thing. In most other countries you do that only if you are traveling long distance in high-speed trains or when you are in large groups.
If you want to know how one can get half the population commuting by train and still have enough space, just look at Switzerland.
@juliank @FredricT @uint8_t Not really. Look at, for example, the TGV. Reserving seats is mandatory. But the price of reserving seats is included in the price of the ticket. It's not an extra item to buy. The SNCF does not play games like the DB does. They offer a public service after all.
Also, I've never been in a TGV that was overbooked. Yet, I've been in many ICE where it was impossible to even get to my seat because people were squished in like sardines.
This is what I'm criticizing.
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